Uh, where did it go? What happened? I was all excited when I read about it and it looks like it is gone?
Community Annual 2019
Abodi
#42
someone must have said something. but iād think just remove the offending item. most people seemed happy to have there content involved and i know i appreciated it collected in one spot.
jgwcaster
#43
Sad to see this taken down. I understand giving credit where its due and getting permission from authors before including, but this annual was intended to compile, make a record of the year and honor all the fan made content. I can respect removing individuals content at their request or just not including their material until they give permission, but scrapping the whole document? That is a shame and leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Ezzerharden, thanks for what you tried to do, and I commend you for going above and beyond to respect fan made content and even pulling the project out of respect for the creators. Hopefully down the road there will be better goodwill towards your efforts. For ICRPG to thrive its gonna have to celebrate what the community produces, for the most part that celebration seems to happen but that was not the case here.
Paxx
#45
I have spoken with @Ezzerharden on this topic a couple of times and in different settings, so I donāt verifiable memory of his sentiment.
The recollections I have are that it is ultimately way too troublesome to get positive names and permission for every submission made after curating.
Heāll probably make the effort for himself but not bother posting/publishing it as it is too difficult to do.
I had thought/spoke of making a 2020 art and setting submission topic, asking posters to only post things they we willing in having as community publications and how they want it to be creditedā¦but after a quick back and forthā¦I dropped the idea as wouldnāt have control on the forums, so itās something for someone else to figure out if it is valued.
Control would be remove comments, just have art/maps/adventures submissions and how they want to be credited, for a yearly or quarterly community project, then locked down?
@Ezzerharden will continue to do it for himself in the hack and slash tradition this hobby had in the 80s.
But I assume he has his own take on the topic.
Runehammer
#46
Ah thanks, Paxx.
Yes, it is a bit of a clerical challenge to credit all creators, and acquire explicit permission, but I still hold that to be a necessary step for any āannualā publications.
A good solution could be to set up a simple āsubmissionā protocol so those who WANT to contribute to such a compendium can easily do so.
I think itās also important not to highlight any one creatorās name in the titling. Keep it communal, keep it egalitarian, and rock on!
Alex
#47
Seems like youāre jumping the gun here in terms of reaction @jgwcaster. Anything that got taken down was either by Ezzerharden himself or at his own request. I think Hank did ask him to give credit where credit was due, instead of just scooping all of the assets without asking, which is only fair. If Ezzerharden bailed on that piece, thatās on him.
Chaosmeister
#48
Thatās totally fair and as it should be. I just remember the Gongfarmers Almanach from DCC G+ days and something like this for ICRPG would be wonderful. But I believe that was submission based. A different topic probably.
Paxx
#49
āIt Came from the Runehammer Forumā quarterly would be fantastic!!!
Cover art could be highest voted cover.
After that have the submission in their totality, as well as chopped up into parts for easy useā¦VTT assets, rooms, maps, print and playā¦special rules.
Submission page would have to say what can be used as single Complete object, what can be chopped up type thing. What name to use when crediting.
Iād be willing to help with curation.
Perhaps some articles from whoever wants to about philosophy of play.
@Runehammer canāt submit for front cover, but can contribute for all other covers, and respond as wanted to previous articles???
Published for free on driveThru or somewhere as a PDF.
Kreeba
#50
@Paxx, sounds like you have volunteered.
A quarterly that people can submit to would be the best format. Perhaps we can also have a special forum tag for it was well, so we can also tag our posts if we are happy with them being included in the next quarterly?
Paxx
#52
There are technical aspectsā¦a web form to make the agreement and submit the material.
After that formatting and assembly. Then publishing. So there is probably a lot of discussions to be made.
What Licensing to use, how to publish, how to accredit everything, how to provide thanks. How to make documents easy to useā¦so Iām not thinking this will be decided and moved along till end of month at the earliestā¦end of March most likely.